OK, firstly if you could separate your post in to paragraphs next time that would be nice. I have been here for a long time. Though it states that I have been a member since 2000, I have actually been here much longer and had to create a new account. I disagree with you on the whole community issue, at least as it concerns R'osity. I think, if you go over to Daz's forums you'll see that they are a community as well. People talking about the pertinent issues with each other and together attempting to resolve said issues, how is that not community?

Another thing, These companies are going to move forward no matter what. Nobody is going to support Poser 6 forever. The business market fluctuates like a nightmare, anyway. CG is a business, it will leave you in the dust, eventually. These people at Smith Micro had new ideas and they intended on implementing them. they did this before any point of sale. Poser 8 was going to happen. They weren't just going to make it and then sit on it. They, like any other business, are going to push it, and push it even to the point of pushing it down our throats because if they don't they lose money. Poser 8 was going to happen and become the priority over all other versions.

Now, I do agree with you on several points. The free items used to be better because I think that designers wanted to show others what they could do. Now it seems that the free stuff sections is for the people that have discovered the wonder of Photoshop. I mean, how many texture packs can be made before someone is duplicating another's work. There are those who are creating very nice stuff like 3-D-C and his sci fi corridor kits. But, how many sexy Vicky poses can you possibly have. There are hardly any poses for mike4 and of those for Vicky4, there almost all seductive. It doesn't speak well of Renderosity to have this V4 fetishism occurring. The market is flooded with this sort of thing while other, more interesting concepts are being ignored.

Now the other side of this argument is that sex sells. the problem is that a lot of the people who have argued that to ME in the past haven't tried to sell anything else but sex, so how would they even know what sells. There is some phenomenal talent out there being wasted on sex poses and corsetry. So, is the creativity in the community stalled? I think so. However, as long as it is a community there is a chance that things will change for the better. With all of this said, Smith Micro and Poser 8 has nothing to do with the absence of community. If the community here has been affected, then it is a reality that only we can be held accountable for. We are the community and it seems that, though difficulties sometimes occur, we are still speaking to one another. Let's just all try to do it with a little common respect.