Nice pictures, Dick. Very nice!

The AP setting was a real deal breaker for the two of us. I maintain (and still do) it's necessary to tweak AP for final renders in order to create special types of effects, and in particular distant haze, Godrays and a sense of extreme distance.

For me, that's how it's always been in Vue, and how I learned from dissecting a number of demo scene files from the past. There will be a number of such scenes from me (without clouds) included in the Vue 8 demo scenes and anyone can experiment for themselves.

While Dick's images are truly incredible, most don't have terrains associated with them. It's when you add a terrain to the atmosphere, that it all breaks apart for me. We went around and around with he wanting to maintain an AP of 1.0, for the reasons (and wonderful images) mentioned above. I wanted an AP of between 5 and 10 for other reasons, such as this image:

Neither of us is wrong-- we just approach a project differently, and with a different workflow.

I, too, look forward to Dick's new package and will be first in line to buy. :-)