Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Sanctum Arts - Licence

Paul Francis opened this issue on Nov 08, 2009 · 66 posts


MachineClaw posted Mon, 09 November 2009 at 11:31 AM

Quote -  I want to be able to use my renders for anything.  I actually don't really want to put V3 and M4 together like that, but I wan the freedom to do any sort of render for any purpose. 
Otherwise we are saying "you can draw a logo yourself and use it for a logo, but don't render one from premade meshes, as this isn't really your art at all you know."
Love esther

esther "I wan the freedom to do any sort of render for any purpose."

well - you can't.  It depends.  When doing commercial work it depends on the EULA of the product and what the client needs and demands.  If the client wants you to give them all working files, photoshop, lightwave, meshes, textures etc. when done with the project then your out of luck cause almost all poser products EULA is no redistribution of the mesh.

Now a client can buy the same products you are using, I've done this in the past for clients, I made a list of all products and the client bought them and I gave them all my working files but did not redistribute anything as the client had the poser products used.

book covers or CD covers usually are just renders and you can do commercial renders and distribute the images but again it depends on the clients specs when doing the job.

I did a CD cover for a band and in my contract I put that they were only allowed to use the images I provided for CD productions.  When the band went to make t-shirts and put the images of the CD cover as their logo then we had big problems.  Both with my contract useage and with poser EULA agreements for the products that I used.  Band ended up going in another direction due to the hassle of rights and I didn't get any more work from them.

When you do commercial works of art there are all kinds of sticky situations you end up in.  Do you own the rights to the image or does the client of the book cover?  Can you make posters after the client has paid for the cover etc.  All that comes under your contract with the clients.

the majority of poser users do not do commercial works and those that do read all the fine print of EULA and agreements of products to make sure they are covered when using poser products.

for commercial renders being sold or doing work for a client almost all poser products allow some form of this as long as you don't sell exclusive rights as you aren't the copyright holder.

that's why the Sanctum Art's EULA topic as well as the ApolloMax EULA come up from time to time.  But most don't read the Daz3D EULA and it covers similar topics in that agreement for every Daz3D product sold.

this is why I don't do much commercial work anymore, I hate clients and their demands!!!  it always sounds great to make $800 on a job until all my time gets exhausted making sure all the legal stuff is done properly and in the end with time of producing the job I end up at the end of the day with $50 in my pocket for 2 weeks of work.  Rarely worth it to me.