I managed to download it yesterday. As has been said, I never sae the "helper" file at all, just straight to the demo .exe file. Took about 6 minutes on my cable modem. I have to say I was extremely surprised to see it rendering so slowly, even a simpel terrain with a simple texture seemed to take twice as long as Bryce 4 with the exact same settings, so I definitely wasn't impressed. But, Jack if you say that it's not like that with the full version, I believe you, and I'm glad I read this because I was really disgusted with what appeared at first glance to be Corel completely ruining a good thing. Maybe I'll get Bryce 5 after all, but I want to wait to see what normal "regular" people (not beta testers) are doing with it and read what they're saying.