Hi, here is a question to all of You Vue users who have some experience with Bryce but still prefer Vue dEsprit. Why do you like Vue better than Bryce ? (I will post the opposite question in the Bryce Forum.)

Well, for natural scenes, it looks natural far easier than it takes to get Bryce to look natural... However, for that same reason is why I like Bryce... Soemtimes i want that look that Bryce gives things... Alos, I really like the camera control in Vue A LOT! :) In Bryce handling the camera can get awkward, especially when you want to do views from above... here you can twist the camera real easy... Also, it is easier to create textures in vue than in Bryce... The skies are more realistic looking in Vue... However, I still like bryce for a lot of things... I still wouldn't give up Bryce...

I like them both, but......I got Vue 4 just recently, I have had Byrce 5 for about 3 weeks, and had Bryce 4 for a while now, like I read before each has it own strenghth and weakness's but......oh my, Byrce's render engine is horrible. It is really really slow. Byrce 4 is a bit faster, but oh my goodness 5 is so slow it seems to go backwards. The Terrain editor in Vue is really much nicer and easier to manipulate, Bryce 5 hasn't really changed that much, they added a tree lab, that needs more work on realism, and added meatballs, changed around their interface for the terrain editor, and changed some colors, but that is about it.....except for that terrible render engine. As far as final renders, Vue is so much more realistic, and that was what I was looking for. I love my Vue and like Byrce 4, I could have done without Bryce 5. Sharen

I just always like to root for the underdog. ;) Actually, for me it's the ease of use, the render speed, the awesome materials and the appearance of the renders. And of course, the support from e-on has alot to do with it too.

Everything everyone else has mentioned above, plus the most important thing (for me) I look for in any product I purchase...EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SUPPORT. Corel are still lacking in this department, I'm afraid. If you have a problem with Vue, you know that you will get a very speedy responce from a real person when you contact E-on :) Cheers

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Whoops! sorry Rich I forgot. See, there are so many that I can't remember them all ;) Cheers

heyas; my reason? the material editor makes SENSE. if i want colour in vertical wavy lines, i can find/make a function with vertical wavy lines. i dont have to poke through a bunch of bryce presets trying to find something that remotely looks like what i want, and mixing it with something else i kinda remotely want, and then finding one with the right colour. that was the most ridiculous thing....! i had better luck hitting the random texture generator. (that was cool, though.) in all fairness, i think bryce's terrain editor is better than vue's. the scatter objects deal is better than vue's. the clouds in the sky editor... were a little more intuitive, i think. oh, and vue is faster. i had bryce 2 and it was SO slow, i told meta back then that if the bryce 3 demo didnt move its butt faster, i wasnt gonna upgrade. i mean, we're talking a matter of minutes between clicking on something and it highlighting to show it was clicked on. the stupid 3 demo was also slow, so i said the heck with it. so i worked in bryce 2 until i discovered vue 3. :)

You know they always say when you compare things you should compare apples to apples....you almost can't compare the 2, Vue really is a class by itself. It is well thought out as far as software goes, well stocked in it capabilities, and who said you can't get photo like pictures......bologna.....in my opionion Vue goes beyond what Byrce can do, although I do like Byrce 5's new meatball thingy, but you need more than that to compete or even be compared to VUE d'ESPRIT. Sharen

Vue beats Bryce hands down in: 1. Ease of use 2. Customer support 3. Speed 4. Vegetation 5. Poser Imports 6. Terrain editor 7. Material editor I think they tie in render quality (although I haven't seen Bryce 5). I've used Bryce 4 for a year now; got Vue last week and haven't loaded Bryce since. Can't see any reason to.

I forgot to mention, there is one thing I miss in Bryce: the spray can render tool. I used that a lot. Of course, with Vue's speed and terrain editor, I probably wouldn't need it as much in Vue.

Yes, Jackson is correct, the spray can tool was a quick asset that Vue will probably get someday. Sharen

Just a quick comment to Sharen. I think maybe you're using the Bryce 5 demo? That is much slower than the real version so it can't realistically be compared to anything. If Vue 4 shows up in retail stores, I'd like to pick it up. I stopped at Vue 2 but really would like to start playing with it again. Spit

Dear Spit, no, I don't have the Bryce demo, I have the original Bryce 5, can show you the serial number if you'd like.....it is really slow in rendering. If you were to ask more Brycer's they would tell you too, the rendering is like a turtle. My Bryce 4 is faster. But Vue is fastest. Not to mention, I paid for this Bryce 5, so if they sent me the demo, I think I am entitled to a refund. Sharen

1. Interface 2. Poser Imports 3. Vegetations 5. Speed I don't think that I ever really got use to the Bryce interface while Vue seemed natural to me. The Poser import function in Vue 4 works pretty good with the updates (but I did hit a problem last night). The VUE vegetations are superb. Bryce 5 seems slower than Bryce 4. Vue is fast . . . The new Bryce tree generator is decent but not as nice as Vue vegetations. I did like the Bryce spraycan feature . . . I'm very pleased with the customer support for Vue. I had a problem that I thought was a Vue issue (it wasn't) and I got prompt responses to my e-mails. I've even received some follow up e-mails that I really appreciated . . . I haven't tried all of the Bryce 5 features (metaballs for example) - but I think that the upgrade is only mildly satisfying. The Vue upgrade (after the first patch) was really quite a nice improvement in the program . . .

I find the interface in Vue easier by far. I spent more time in Bryce fighting the program than making something (especially materials). Having the spray can render in Vue would be nice though. Rich

Dear Absinthe, let me ask you a question.....why do you ask? And why did you ask in both forums? Sharen

Sharen..I know this doesn't belong in this forum, but just want to point out that Bryce 5 is not slower than Bryce 4 unless you choose some premium render options. It can actually be faster if you lower the RPP and ray depth though that is not something you would normally do. I'm not talking through my hat because I was a beta tester and played with it constantly for literally months. I'm sure Vue will get the rayspray eventually (unless it was patented) because they've put in all kinds of other things that started in Bryce. I still intend to get Vue 4 at some point though. I just don't like the idea of having to pay for extra vegetation and dealing with those serial numbers but I would like to try out the Poser import which sounds fantastic. Spit

To Sharen: I asked because I am deciding between updating to bryce 5 or bying Vue 4. I asked in both forums because naturally the people in the bryce forum like bryce better and vice versa. Now I can compare the answers and arguments better. Absinthe

To Absinthe, I see. To Spit, I will try that. Sharen

I will confess that I bought Bryce 2 for the PC when it first came out. I used it for a couple of weeks, and got so frustrated with not being able to position the camera exactly how I wanted, trying to wade my way through all those "Appearing - Disappearing" buttons and icons, and waiting for a program that was at least 10 times slower than anything else I used, that I put it away on a shelf (where it still rests) and swore I'd never use the program again, and never buy an update for it. Compare that to my experience with Vue. I got Vue2 when I first came out. It took my all of about 30 minutes to completely understand the interface. It did exactly what I wanted it to, and it did it 10 times FASTER than any other program I'd ever used. At that point I was completely hooked, and now Vue4 is the only program I use for rendering. All my other 3D programs feed into Vue4. -SMT