Why are you posting links to other 3D applications?

I was talking about figure creation or figure specific apps (you buy poser to create figures quicklhy and easily, you aren't buying or using Lightwave to specifically pose people/characters although granted, you CAN do that as well).

I was not refering to modeling or rendering and layout or scene building apps.

There's poser and there's Daz for straight out figures. Lightwave and all the rest are totally different beasts.

I used to work with Newtek (and lightwave) closely and helped (with Steve Worley) create numerous plugins such as Sasquatch (grass hair fur plug).

I hate when people assume you just got into 3D yesterday and Poser is the first program you've used.

I go back to TurboSilver, Digiview, Ham-e. Amiga. Caligari :)

That's where I'm coming from :)