I just DLed the Pro 2010 Beta and installed my extant runtimes. Loaded a previously assembled scene of my Doug character, lit with a single light and BB's light dome.

Render engine set at default final render settings, plus IDL.

Selected "Render in Background."

Total render time: 4:22! That's 4 MINUTES and 22 SECONDS! The same PZ3 took about 12 minutes in P8!

I need a new cooling fan for my brain.

Click on the pic to see the full sized render!

Are you running 64 bit, basicwiz? is that the explanation - Poser Pro's 64 bit render engine utilizing more RAM?

BTW, with a basically one figure scene (well, plus clothes), IDL isn't gonna be doing much. It really only gets relevant when you've got a surrounding scene.

I hope those who brought Poser 8 get a deal on this when it comes out..Iv'e just loaded Windows 7 64 bit..

It's been publicly advertised from the beginning: Poser Pro users will get the sidegrade price of Poser 8 back when they upgrade to Poser Pro 2010. So I'm guessing the upgrade will be pretty cheap for those of us who have both PP and P8.

 BB's dome is what makes the IDL work miracles on this scene... It's not the simple render you state it is above.  I compared it to one rendered with the regular firefly scheme and it's literally day and night.

Yes, I'm running XP 64. IT is the 64 bit render engine that is making the difference.

I've tried about a dozen renders this evening, of varying size and complexity, and they all render at about 1/4 the time required in Poser 8. I'm REALLY impressed with the speed and quality!

Kewl. How many RAM are you running?

 8 Gigs Ram with a 3 GHz AMD Phenom II 940 quad core CPU. 8 render threads enabled. The computer is as hard core as I could aford, but it is the program progerss that is generating the changes from version to version. I just can't believe the progress that's being made!

Thx. Hm... wish I could upgrade my machine this winter.... I've been eyeing an i7 with 12 GB of RAM.

Quote - Thx. Hm... wish I could upgrade my machine this winter.... I've been eyeing an i7 with 12 GB of RAM.

You'll love it! ;)

But I don't have Poser 8 or the $$$ for Poser Pro :(

Quote -  8 Gigs Ram with a 3 GHz AMD Phenom II 940 quad core CPU. 8 render threads enabled. The computer is as hard core as I could aford, but it is the program progerss that is generating the changes from version to version. I just can't believe the progress that's being made!

Wow 8 Gigs Ram with a 3 GHz.. you have some horses working for you. Unfortunate for me I just have an upgraded hamster running my machine.  The most I can get on my comptuer is 5 GB RAM

Frederick
Poser By Design

Try tu use manual settings you will reduce your render time, defaut render settings are stupid !

One thing is i don't see how to use the D3D render script with "render in background"... only the default Poser render window.
Anybody?

Quote - Try tu use manual settings you will reduce your render time, defaut render settings are stupid !

Any suggestions for starting points Miss A?

IDL is totally wasted with this scene.  Populate with a proper image in the envsphere and fill the scene with more objects displacement settings on.

Well, pardon me for posting something I thought was major praise for Poser Pro. I wasn't holding the image up for praise, only being impressed at the decrease in render times. As to the effect IDL has, I suggest that you don't know this to be the case unless you rendered it both ways, as I did, and SAW what a striking contrast exists. IT DOES make a major difference in the way the skin shadings render. Displacement settings ARE on.

Well but if you want try the capabilities of the new render engine use an highend scene, not a simple pose ;-)

reasoning PPro 2010 is the worst version of poser !

Do you understand ? ;-)

Quote -  8 Gigs Ram with a 3 GHz AMD Phenom II 940 quad core CPU. 8 render threads enabled. The computer is as hard core as I could aford, but it is the program progerss that is generating the changes from version to version. I just can't believe the progress that's being made!

8 render threads? I've been trying to find out if a Phenom could do that but all the search results I get say only the Intel i7 does the hyperthreading thing.

Is it any faster on a 32-bit machine? Or just on th 64?

I doubt it would be faster than P8 on a 32 bit machine....

I'm gonna have to redownload. My demo zip seems to be corrupted.

 No. It is the same speed as P8 on a 32 bit.

Re: IDL on simple scenes... Mine looks better than yours A. The skin tones have much better shadowing and texture. But I obviously don't know anything. I've only tested and tried the renders both ways.

I'll not be posting anything further in this thread.

/unsubscribing

Quote - One thing is i don't see how to use the D3D render script with "render in background"... only the default Poser render window.
Anybody?

Click "apply" in D3D's render script and then close the D3D script window and then render in background. Works on my Mac version.

Doesn't say much about you when you say someone is doing something stupid, then you do a render in a different version of poser. He was just making a statement about something he found out and was excited about. When did this forum get so tight-assed?

 Thank you, Marque. You seem to be the only one to "get it."

Quote - Click "apply" in D3D's render script and then close the D3D script window and then render in background. Works on my Mac version.

Are you sure it's the D3D settings that are applied when rendering? Or the Poser default's?

I guess one way to find out would be to set the regular settings ridiculously low quality and then set the D3D settings.

Quote -  Thank you, Marque. You seem to be the only one to "get it."

Hey, I got it, too, basicwiz! I just want to know about the 8 render threads with the Phenom. I keep reading it's impossible. Are you sure you have 8 render threads? Where did you set it?

Quote - > Quote - Click "apply" in D3D's render script and then close the D3D script window and then render in background. Works on my Mac version.

Are you sure it's the D3D settings that are applied when rendering? Or the Poser default's?

What I did as a test was set the min shader rate to 1.00 in via the poser settings. Open the D3D script and change it to 0.20 and click apply. Then went back to the poser settings and it was showing 0.20 there. So I am assuming this applies to all settings in the D3D script.

 General Preference > Render > Number of Threads

Later tests I've made suggest that there is no real difference between 4 and 8 threads in terms of total throughput. It appears faster with 8 because there are more render boxes working, but the four seem to get the job done just as quickly. Not sure what to tell you on that one.