Hi Griggs (& Everyone Else Too!), I wasn't making a case for either Bryce or Vue being better. I hope it did not come across that way. There has been a lot of folks who are contemplating purchasing one of these two programs. I use and like both. I could rehash all of the pros and cons of both systems, but instead simply did a similar render with both programs. Seeing is beliving. I am by no means a high end user of either program. Job, family, and a host of other interest compete with my 3d raytracing hobby. Now if I could just get by without sleeping! I hoped that the side by side comparison of the two photos might help some poor sod out there make up their mind. JAS