Ofcourse nearly similar lighting effects can be done in entirely different programs if you're prepared to work at it a little. Links below are of 2 pics I put in the gallery a while ago.The "Chevy" was done in VUE 3, the other one in Poser. http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=50394&Start=13&Sectionid=0&Form.Search=hein http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=50394&Start=13&Sectionid=0&Form.Search=hein