And here I was trying to keep this all a secret. :-) I got the chance to do the textures for the release, which I am also told will be very soon. DAZ is just once again trying to get everything just right before the final release. Isn't it nice to have so many options. I remember Poser 1 figures. Gag! We've come a long way. I never dreamed that we'd have this quality of figures at (IMHO) affordable prices. I also remember the days of yore when I was on an old Amiga trying to create a human on my own. Luckily for us all I opted to leave that up to the professionals (yes many people here are included in that Proffessional statement ;-)) Thanks DAZ! (Zygote orig.) James