Ok, New question!

I have made some armor for Kiwi and am having problems. The main issue is the fact when I turn his head side to side or up and down USING THE NECK (the armor is conformed) the armor starts to slip.

Now, i used the bone doner method, so all axis, rotation, placement is identical. I dont know what this issue is.

Another thing, when I go to the joint editor to look at the inner and out mat sphere to make my adjustments, they are not there?? Im trying this all in p8.

Any suggestions? I'll post screen grabs in a bit.

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