Well okay then, If tris aren't such a bad thing for a chunk of steel, that alone would make a big difference if I simply chose to go back and edit in the vertex room, I could easily cut the number of polys in half - or more. But I did run through the spline modeler tut last night and want to try a spline version. And I remember the automatic domain names, now that you mention it, because I deleted them and added new ones. Too much 3d, not enough time.

I work in Corel and export to Illustrator. My initial frame profile with just the large holes as a compound shape came into the spline modeler great, so I can go back and add the smaller bolt holes.

I guess you just have to consider each part and pick the most appropriate modeler.

Thanks again,
Mike