oh, i think i figured it out.  I didn't realize on this character, you have to go to the base setting in the library and add in the smile morph.  Wow.. I've spent so long trying to discern why this wasn't working when it would work on V4 when i was just playing with her without doing that..  thank you all for your patience.  Situation solved now.  Thanks Anniebel and everyone else.

DA Grant