I really liked the above renders. For some of us still swaying between Bryce and Vue and can only afford one, it's nice seeing something like this. It's not that one is better than the other, they are both good... as in, both have simliar capiblities so it comes down to price. From what I have seen Vue 4 is about a 100 bucks cheaper... I would love to have them both. But, there is no way I can afford that now. So it's nice to know buying the cheaper program doesn't cut down the ability to create some great stuff. Just a run through the gallery proves that. But, I'm still saving pennies as it is. Going to cry when my demo runs out.