thanks pakled.  I'll look up the tutorials. I still find a lot of them way too flat though.sadly.

Rayraz.. one minor probs has cropped up.. because both renders are transparent.. this has come up in several places. 

Either

1. I post work it on photoshop.. cleaning it up
2. reduce the transparency in bryce.. but that spoils the whole effect.

Did something go wrong somewhere? I rendered to disc at 300 dpi.. 30 inches by whatever. Just to see what it would be like.The bigger..the more faults you see.  i rendered it with the sky background ..the grey -reddish one..(removing the grass as they showed thru the lower hand,  then removed the background.. thinking I'll photoshop it in after I tweak the three layers. I want that anyway as my background..

Maybe I ought to 'cheat' and render it small.. As it is, with the background, I don't need it that large!

Your views?