Cant wait for the weekend. I am going to work straight through and try to get the alpha out on sunday sometime. During the week I only get an hour here and there, and so many other things on my mind.

Thanks everyone. I hope you will still like him when he comes out. I was really pleasantly surprised myself with the way he is performing this time around. The drawback to this is just the roll and swing to the leg which just has to be compensated for in the pose. Does not bother me, but some people may not like it.

Knees to chest, chest to knees. You're right drapak, but this is the way I bend (have to sit against the wall to do it, getting old)  :) But it still takes mostly leg bending as well.

Also I dumped all body handles in this rig so it's all straight rigging. I still have the second rig with the body handles in it. I really like them both and want to keep them both. The second rig has the hip free bending so you can do much adjustment with out turning off the IK. I am going to use one of Cages geometry insertion poses to call the handle geometry when you want it.

P.S.  You can get the back alot straighter and bend the legs more, but it did not look natural to me that way. (unless he were laying on his back.)

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A HOMELAND FOR POSER FINALLY