So far I havn't had any problem with importing .obj files from PLantStudio into Bryce. I got the demo of XFrog, and I checked the slider in lower lefthand corner, it does work! The only problem with XFrog is, I can't really afford it right now, PlantStudio was so cheap I couldn't resist. I'm not sure, but I think you can control the poly size in PlantStudio. But I'm havn't had any problems so far. The 3D models from 3DCafe work pretty well too, some are a little big in poly's but they are pretty real looking. I'd like to see the review about making plants in the Tree Lab, do you have a link? I'm sure there is a way to make some interesting stuff in there, but I havn't figured it out yet. kaom