Hi All;  I have been following this thread with interest as I have recently moved from Metacreations P4 to the new (to me) P8 that I got for X-Mas. This render is my first try with Bagginsbill's IDL and VSS. Please ignore the MWFlip Hair as I only dropped it into the scene because bald women freak me out a bit. The results on V4 and her default texture with this light set and VSS are amazing but I would like to lower the bump on the skin a bit. When I looked into the material room to check it out my eyes started to glaze over and my palms got sweaty. This mess of noodles seems a bit beyond me at the moment but I'm working on it.  The question is of course how do I lower the bump? On the VSS prop? I am asking here because this is the thread that that brought me to this question due to the VSS prop in the pz3. I realise that the VSS thread probably has the answer but there is a whole lot of reading in there for me to go through and it will take me days to peruse it all. pdg