After I read through the old thread I tried changing virtual memory as someone suggested. I put StefyZZ's NOA and ASIA in the same scene and rendered it twice. So, feeling triumphant, I posed them, added their hair (Alice hair and MW Gel cut) and tried to render them. Everything locked up. How am I ever going to get ASIA, NOA, and one of StefyZZ's new male textures into a menage-a-trois with this kind of problem? :) But seriously, as our computers become faster, RAM and disk space become cheaper, and better textures become available (BTW have I put in enough plugs for StefyZZ). Poser 5 really neeeds to address this issue.