And dont give up..i have search for some old meshes from my beginning. Some are from tutorials...the pig and the small man and the cartoon pic have been for challenges in a 3dforum. That was very good. You need to think about the mesh and how you can solve that. Then you start and im very stubborn when i will learn something. I try thatout until i have a result..like to solve a puzzle.

So..maybe i should say to you....make a Futon Bed g

Karth :-)