Minyassa opened this issue on Mar 06, 2010 · 131 posts
bagginsbill posted Thu, 11 March 2010 at 3:56 PM
Quote - > Quote - Exactly! Fine craftmanship, no doubt.
Bagginsbill, I would point out that a lot of 'Original' CG art, done in 3ds Max, is based on ready made primitives: Sphere, Cube. Cylinder, Plane, Cone, etc.
I too often use similar Poser Primitives in creating my scenes: Walls, Walkways, Floors, Ceilings, Door Posts, Glass Panes, etc. To what extent does this not match what the Max artist does so as NOT to qualify, since BOTH rely on ready made geometry as the foundation of a scene?
dph
Well, by analogy to cooking, simple primitives are like simple ingredients, such as milk, oil, eggs, water, flour. We don't expect a chef to design and build a tractor, buy a farm, plant the wheat, harvest the wheat, and grind the flour. That's not what makes a chef. "Cuisine" does not require that you construct every component of the meal from raw atoms.
Now some chefs will sneer at others who don't make their own pasta from flour, eggs, and water, but used manufactured pasta instead to make Lasagna. Here is a gray area, where the great chef makes a distinction, but ordinary consumers might not. This is your CG Society CG artist.
Then there is the guy who opens a package of Stoffer's frozen pasta and puts it in the microwave. Nobody thinks that guy is a chef.
And it isn't just about what level of ingredient you're using. There has to be some merit to the result.
I don't care if you spend 9 years adding spheres to a scene and carefully positioning each one, you can still end up with something that isn't art. Why? Because I could write a program that does that automatically and finish the same scene in 10 minutes.
I've seen "artists" artfully assemble dog poo and put it on display. Sorry - that just isn't art. My dog does just as well - all I gotta do is put a pretty plate under his butt.
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