When I think of CG artists I think of the pros who are getting paid a lot of money for their work, because the work they are producing is at a level of quality most of us can only dream about..  

but none of them do it alone...  

they work in teams; one team does the modeling, another the animation, another the texturing, another the lighting, etc..    The finished product is a blending of the effort of all of them, which when combined creates a single piece of work...   so how can only the ones doing the modeling be true CG artists?   if it weren't for the animators, texture artists, etc., it wouldn't work at all...   I just don't agree with that line of thinking at all..  

I do understand the reason for it though - sticking some canned content up there, adding in a couple of lights and clicking 'render' doesn't make someone an artist..  but my point is it can if it's done tastefully with feeling and the simple belief that the reason for it matters...

• personally I love the material room in poser the most..  I know that's where your expertise lies Bagginsbill and I have learned a great deal from just listening to you talk about it..  and I thank you for sharing your knowledge with everyone...   it's what has kept me interested in the program all this time...

honestly that's the whole reason I use the damned program..  if it wasn't for that aspect of it I would throw it away, or give it away or something...   I've learned a lot about the material room since I started, but know I have a very long way to go to really understand what is possible and how it can be used...   it is such a powerful part of poser that I know I'll be using it for years and always love it...  unfortunately I have a very limited amount of time with it because my 'day job' is so all-consuming it leaves me only a precious few hours a day to myself...   

M