Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Antonia - Opinions?

odf opened this issue on Oct 27, 2008 · 13933 posts


Cage posted Thu, 18 March 2010 at 12:25 AM

lesbentley: I want to know what happens with the MorphXZ effort, too! 

amy_amei:
It's great that you want to master JCM-creation without using something like Morphing Clothes!  I mentioned that option because you inquired about programs that might ease or assist the process, then went on to ask about the TDMT morph transfer script.  You have more skill and patience than I have.  :lol:  I'm quite eager to take the easy way out, with something as complex and frustrating as creating JCM's.  :lol:

You are correct, about TDMT and Morphing Clothes doing basically the same thing.  Spanki developed the basic process (weighted influence of correlated vertices) used by TDMT, and it seems Morphing Clothes ended up doing something quite similar a year or two later.  I've recently adapted the process Spanki and I had been using to do what I suspect may be something more like what Morphing Clothes does.  And The Tailor may have been doing something like this well before anyone else.  Wardrobe Wizard may do similar things too, in its own way.  There are probably other programs which do, too, which I don't even know about.

The TDMT process should be able to be extended to handle clothing, and your idea about adapting it to work specifically with JCM's is fascinating.  :thumbupboth:  I think Spanki had hoped to work in that direction -clothing - at one point, but Morphing Clothes came along and made it unnecessary for TDMT to be developed along those lines.  So far, the TDMT morph transfer scripts have been focused mainly on working with one actor at a time, and have primarily been developed with the idea of transferring head and face morphs between actors.  With Morphing Clothes and Wardrobe Wizard and other programs providing tools to work with clothes and most body parts, it's made sense to work with faces, which all the other programs omit from their processes.  The methods could be extended to other contexts fairly easily, but it isn't something I've bothered to do, so far....  😊

I think you have a very good grasp of the process already, very quickly.  From the link you provide, I suspect you may know more about most of this than I do.  :lol:  (Quaternions!  Eep!  :scared:  Run away!  Run away!)

A script or program which could automatically generate the correct deltas for a JCM would be an amazing and wonderful thing.  It sounds like that's what you're proposing.  Is that correct?  Feel free to utilize anything in the TDMT code that might help you.  :thumbupboth:

(Apologies to odf for invading the thread with so much TDMT-talk.  :blushing:)

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Cage can be an opinionated jerk who posts without thinking.  He apologizes for this.  He's honestly not trying to be a turkeyhead.

Cage had some freebies, compatible with Poser 11 and below.  His Python scripts were saved at archive.org, along with the rest of the Morphography site, where they were hosted.