That's the idea but will also include the neck, and I'm also thinking of rib lines on the side, and upper front chest, and making the back a bit more muscular. Kinda like Kate Moss's back used to be in all of those Calvan Kline adds. I had a model do the photo work for me, and I knwo what to do, but... The poser smooth paramaters are killing me, every time I try to save as a morph it smooths them out to the point it becomes one solid line running down the legnth of the back. I've already been at it for 4 hours and 26 tries... -Gabe- -Gabe-