Bagginsbill, I appologize for rehashing this but after 8 pages in this forum I gave up. When I said it was way past my ability, I ment about figuring out what the error was actually saying. I checked my Windows 7 firewall by clicking on the "allow programs to communicate through Windows Firewall" and it shows that all of my poser files are allowed. I am not finding a firewall setting on my anti-virus, witch is Kaspersky. At no time between when I shut Poser 8 down the last time and now when it gave me the error was I hooked up to the internet. My Kaspersky is out of date due to weather and a blackout preventing me from getting on line, but I do not know if that would have an effect on it or not. I probably know jsut enough about computers to be really dangerous to any that I own. I can install software and and work Poser just fine but I know if I start to poke around in the system I will destroy something important and make a nice $1500 paperweight