Yes, I did it! I took the run time folder that was in daz (which contained victoria) and put it in the dowload folder of poser 8. And, it works in poser. I'm looking at victoria in poser right now. Thank you guys so much. Maybe this might help for the other downloads that requiered v4 in my poser... I don't know. This is why I wanted Victoria 4.. Still dabling with her now..