That's a cool picture mike.. Definitely nice.. Hey listen, after this vue experience with primitives, I can understand one million percent not doing any kind of elaborate thing with vue primitives... You just have no way of measuring... Only a lunatic would do what I did and when I post tomorrow, you'll see what I mean... And yeah, Rhino is perfect for what you did... I can see the olive quite clearly... Cool use of the glowing materials in vue for the cigarette...