Jas, I totally agree! Either E-On should release a big amount of new Solid Growth trees (cold climate stuff) or implement a "Solid Growth-tree Lab" so that the community can make trees on their own. I am just also considering the Onyx Tree Pro or Xfrog. Worldbuilder is of course also an option...probably even better value for the money considering all the lovely things you can do with it besides making trees! Jas: what have you found out about the difference between Onyx and Xfrog? Any recommendations? Varian: If I understand you correctly you do not want E-On to spend time on doing trees rather than implement new features in Vue? Well, if they implement a new tree-lab then I guess everyone will be happy! Enjoy Sunshine in Life / Ole