I'm not sure the AV is the problem and it will take alot more testing.   Things started to go to hell and a hand basket after going from bit defender to Norton.  I have an unusual config (running a raid array) and that may be the problem.  I'm going back to Bit Defender to see if that corrects the problem.  I still cannot get q manager to work with Norton.  Q manager ran for one session then stopped so something may be snaggled up in the computer, poser has a bug or the AV is "protecting" me.  None of my other programs seem to be acting up.  I'll keep testing and posting if there are any suggestions I would appreciate the help.