Boy Guitta, what a mess. I bought for the first time Victoria, comes with Vicky/P4. I had no textures when I bought them. Had just what you had, big thick gross eyebrows. I bought the textures one week later. Had to manipulte them too. Not happy with my buy though. Expensive when you have to buy both. Anyway, I had to apply all transparency maps to the brows both eyebrows and upperbrows, I have 2 sets to deal with, and hit the dial brows gone like Mike said. I am sorry I can't help you here, I am still learning myself, but when I get it, I will write it down for sure and send you my discovery. Then we will make another tutorial just for those dumb eyebrows. Sharen:)