To the poster who said these are a wild success... te base figures are free. We love free things, so of course there's going to be plenty of downloads for the base.

To the poster who caveled about the P4 children... like so many other things, we want it all handed to us, instead of actually going in and working with it. We want paint by numbers when Poser gives us a blank canvas to find our own art. Sorry if this sounds self-congratulatory, but I did some kick-ass stuff with the P4 guy that pushed him up to a level equaling M2. The same thng could be done with any of the figures that come with the software, but most users dont want to spend the time actually delving into a figure to make it their own. I'd posit that, in the right hands, even the P4kids could be made better than the K4s. But you havwe to be willing to invest the time.

As for DAZ itself, yes, it used to really grate on me that we made them the only game in town, with a particular emphasis on Barbie Showgirl. But nowadays I rarely do anything in Poser that isnt toon based, so, to be blunt, I dont really care anymore what DAZ does or does not do. I think the direction they're going in verges on the flat out ugly for the female meshes -- A4 and the Girl4 are nothing compared to their predecessors -- but M4, as I already noted, was a huge improvement. So IMHO it's a curious phenomenom over there, with -- for once in the company's history -- men who are far hotter than the women would ever be. And now with these pretty weird kids... well, it just confirms my view that DAZ is finding its own style, and the style aint pretty.

Just my 0.02. YRMV.

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