I am not sure how I am supposed to shut the freaking hell up when I need to figure out if I need to return my purchase or if I can maybe fix it I spend about 5k dollars on daz products a year alone and I feel that I have the right to voice my concerns and find solutions other then switch to DS or shut the freaking hell up its all your fault kind of answers when voicing a valid concern maybe my 5k a year they are loosing is not gonna hurt them but I am not going to support figures I can not fully use and this is what I am trying to figure out as far as the K4's are concerned so far I had more problems then fixes with them and that is using Poser Pro 2010 so I am not behind software wise other then using something else then DS. I do not believe in insults but that should go both ways.