Great bit of info TomD. Thanks. Though I havn't been able to get my Mac and PC to work yet. I'll keep trying though since I know this will help me a lot since I want to take advantage of the higest settings in Bryce 5. And they really SLOW things down! I have PCMACLAN running to have the two talk together normally and that works fine for an AppleTalk connection, but B5 doesn't seem to recognize this connection. Hmmm. But I'n starting a new topic. I'll stop now. ;-) I hope we at least answered MikeJ's question. James