I'm sorry you don't agree with me MKeyes, but I wasn't twisting the point.

You said that it was only fair that persons who make it to the charts with their renders give the vendors credit. What's fair is this: if a person wants to give credit to someone in their render notes, then that is up to them. That's great. That's nice. But, if it's required, the person who did the render could theoretically charge the vendor for advertising - in the interest of fairness of course ;o). Requiring that an artist MUST give credit for any reason after having paid for the items they've used (paid for to USE in renders I may add) would be tantamount to them not only having to pay for the privilege to use the item, but now having to pay AND give free advertising. Does that make sense?

I can sympathize with the vendor: I used to be one and I hope to be one again at some point, but I would never even dream of requiring that not only does the purchaser have to hand over some dough but that they have to give me free advertising too. There's no fairness involved in that. Much as it might be nice, you can't force someone to give free advertising after they've paid for the item. And that's what it is - free advertising. Even if it is common courtesy and just plain nice :o).

Laurie