Quote   ""  Visit Chernobyl.  Then you will know that nature thrives on while man-made materials rot away.  Heck, visit Detroit.""

Please read back..!  That has been exactly My point  How many years though until  Chernobyl is safe for Humans again.?  We have had several hundred children from around that region come down here for respite and treatment for their various diseases and deformities..  Even children being born now have over twenty times the risk of a fatal radiation based illness..

Re conservatism in OZ.  Yes We do have them.   I like some of them but I could not eat a whole one..

You would be welcome here,   but see as much of Your own beautiful country first..

Yosemete is My second favorite place in all the world..  A tiny area on Fraser island called Central Station is My Number One.

Re Aussies visiting Rendo.   I am suprised that there are not more,   like You said there is a lot of work in the Mags,  but reasonably scarce here..