Okay...I had TONS of problems with Vicky 2's eyebrows. Some of the good folks over at big-i.com helped me thru it. I was also ready to bite the head off of the first person who even looked at me crosseyed while I was working on this. I fooled with it for 2 hours and could not get them right. Putting the "Brows Gone" dial on 1.00 did absolutely NOTHING. I think that my problem was that I was using a Vicky 1 texture on my Vicky 2 model. The Vicky 1 tex has no trans for the eyebrows so I am told. As soon as I pasted on a Vicky 2 tex and adjusted all the things I was told to adjust, all was well :). When I get home Guitta, I'll open that Poser scene file and look at all the settings I used for her eyebrows and let ya know. I know how frustrating it is. You can't back the eyebrows into the head like you could on Vicky 1. Laurie