Mike, if you are old friend Mike J. from Florida, you have CR2Edit. You can create MAT/MAP/MOR files with a few clicks, no need to try to load a 20MB Vicki2 file into a text editor. Here's the tutorial page: http://www.zenwareonline.com/cr2edit/tutorials/tutorials.html If you don't have version 5, let me know and I'll fix you up with it. cheers, Dan http://www.zenwareonline.com/cr2edit/cr2edit.html Sorry Win only for software http://www.zenwareonline.com for ZenPaint, ZenTile, ZenGrid and VueMaster