I see what you mean the only problem is focus on the topic is what will make or break these sessions, and that would be hard to do if you have to search through topics such as 1 will somone make this for me 2 do you know where i can find 3 this is my new comic etc What im looking to do is bring some pros who are friends that could have a significant input without having to deal with the person who just bought poser and made the 100th version of tomb raider! lol i want to keep it focused on modeling and skill asociated with it the first month could start out with a simple head tutorial that everyone could try with differnt apps! and a concept sketch, maybe two to fit differnt styles one nurbb or spline andone box method or point by point once everyone has completed the head to a point then we could focus on eyes and eylid wrinkle detail etc next hair for it everyone could comment on each others work etc to help you could ask whatever questions you like just stay on topic i cant stress this part enough if you get a bunch of topics that say lw is better than max or maya is the best app or where can i get koz hair moore expierenced users wont hang around and thats the idea behindi get some expeirenced people to lead and the less expeirenced learn at the other forum im at they recieve 300,000 hits last monthe cause we do it that way its strict but works i wouldnt mind doing it in character creators i could use tbkoen and clints help but i dont think the focus would be there and then its really a waste of time ! thanx everyone for your replies Trav