It's all a bit brain straining I know.  All I can say as I've been doing it that way for some years now and it works.

I know what you mean about the constrained group bunching things up sometimes, thats why I mentioned the Dynamic group option.  You use the waist group to give it its own cloth properties, somethin along the lines of leather would do it.  It will move a little but not too far, and will reduce the bunching effect.

There are times when the top of the dress is tight that I will constrain the whole of the top group, which works pretty well too.

Nice shirt :) nice neat mesh, always nice to see.

John

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