Cool Clay. There are lots of flowers on the content cd, try some out rose bushes and other flowering bushes are easily made this way. On a more somber note, Some of my files containing user leaves don't render correctly on a network. Even simple files with one or two trees do this. I can render it from the temp file on the client and it renders fine, but tile optimization and several computers it doesn't work right. Even on the server. Have you had any experiances like this clay? If so I will fire off an email to corel and post on thier newsgroup hopefully this will be fixed. Griggs