Winterclaw: Keep at it! It's not always easy being a student of BB, but well worth the effort.

At hborre: Yes, we need an "Liquids" thread. We have a wonderful glass shader by BB, in his Orbshaders package, but if your 3d glass has a liquid in it, well, I've had unsatisfacotry results.

"A lonely climber walks a tightrope to where dreams are born and never die!" - Billy Thorpe, song: Edge of Madness, album: East of Eden's Gate

Weapons of choice:

Poser Pro 2012, SR2, Paintshop Pro 8