Hi Adam

 I can actually see the shapes of the clouds now- and V4 has a shaded appearance in OpenGL (pipeline) At some point I will upgrade the video card- did you?

Quote - Thats good to hear! - bizarrely, the e-on blurb suggests that the 7300 cards are incompatible with Vue, which made me wonder whether that was why I had soooo much hassle with 6.5 on my first gen 3Ghz 8 core Xeon.

Waiting on the demo.

Adam