Quote -  yes I tried installing the prop but I am using poser 8 and the folder system is crap. I downloaded the files and put them in a runtime folder but it doesn't pop up in the library. The folder shows up, but nothing in it (0)

You installed it while Poser was running? Did you refresh the folder? If that failed, did you restart Poser?

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