Quote -  here it is with Ao,(on the ibl) she looks different, you see.
I am rendering with the light meter now, if that's still useful

It would be useful if we could see it.

And your earlier images also had AO.

You know there are two kinds of AO - light-based and material based.

You just said "here it is with AO". That's incorrect. Here it is with MORE AO.

You had it on somewhere before as well. Now you have more of it.

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