Im sure it works for you.But Ive lurked around here enough to realize that Im not the only person to have these and other troubles. Im thinking that there are known problems with this software and that those associated with development of this software task themselves with the job of smokescreenery. Generally speaking, Ive dealt with companies where a problem(s) exist and the first thing they do is blame everything else. If I press them, If I confront them with proof or with questions they cant answer, they usually admit to "issues" they have with this or that functionality Im thinking thats where we are now. Round one was "update your drivers" bla,bla,bla. Im not going to round two. I`ve got C4D. I was just hoping that someone may have heard of a fix or workaround or something that could make this program USEFUL. If I have to spent all this extra time dancing thru rings of fire  just to get a satisfactory result, I,ll use what  I already have. Eventually C4D will get easier for me as I learn more and more about it.