Exactly I would welcome a basic Impala yet the cage and air dams would still be an issue as for textures ,,,No problem, I'll "post" those myself. I found one Nascar in 3D max however as we all know, DAZ will not open those files. I'm not after offical markings as the builds are for custom shells for a friends company. Thanks much for the suggestions. I suppose I'll have him shell out the $175.00 on TurboSquid. LOL