I was thinking that V3 makes a good 30-40 year old to go with the 20 something V4. Here is V4 and V3 reunited after several years- French Amelie V4 on left- and my final V3 from 2004 (?) on the right. V3 looks to be 40 ish. Which is great if I want to render a more mature character! I think she would be a more believable Starship Captain for instance...

   LaurieA- I am glad I was NOT drinking water when I read your post about scaring children and animals. It would have been sprayed all over the computer!