I think the whole point is that the theme of naked women is redundant, over-used. "Been there, done that." People want variety, not repetition. After a while, you've seen one picture in this particular theme, you've seen them all. My point on the male figure is, and always has been, that he's NOT ugly, it's merely the texture maps being used. I've made some really gorgeous male Poser guys, and it's all in the texture maps. Blank out the male figure to stark white and look at his face. He has a beautiful facial structure. The cartoonish texture maps that come with MetaCreations is what makes him ugly. So stop insulting the poor Poser guy by calling him a dork because he really isn't. Everyone is so obsessed with creating the perfect woman that Poser guy has been left out. Poser gal would be a dork, too, if she had on the wrong texture map. Nuff said! Melanie