Hello, I used vue 3 and now use vue 4 and I must say, the render is much better. Check out some of my vue images here (search for Calseeor ). Those are all, unless otherwise noted, rendered at the 'final' setting...which is well below the best you can get, and yet they look awesome. Keep in mind, on some of them, I added a post-work blur. If I did, I will have listed that in my credits. Hope this helps. --Eryk