By the way, if you would like to see an example of some of my great Poser guys, check out the gallery in my web site at http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/8165 I've used photographs of real faces in the texture maps and that makes all the difference. Also, the hair makes the man. The dorky hair MC supplies with Poser for the male figure is pretty sad. Melanie